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« on: August 04, 2007, 15:54 » |
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Is it possible with rssE to enter a project with 5000+ keywords, but to enable site growth over time... meaning - first site produced/uploaded is 100 keywords(pages), then a week later another 100 keywords(pages) is uploaded, then later more... If automated, this would be even better...
I think this would help sites get listed in G faster (and delisted slower), and there are some other programs WebsiteArticleWizard that does it...
Maybe in cooperation with some other halfagain program?
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 21:31 » |
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Is it possible with rssE to enter a project with 5000+ keywords, but to enable site growth over time... meaning - first site produced/uploaded is 100 keywords(pages), then a week later another 100 keywords(pages) is uploaded, then later more... If automated, this would be even better...
I think this would help sites get listed in G faster (and delisted slower), and there are some other programs WebsiteArticleWizard that does it...
Maybe in cooperation with some other halfagain program? Hi there.. rssE dosent support "growing sites", as it normally (depending on how your templates are config) adds random site links on the created pages, it would have to re write all pages to add links to the "new" pages added.. I know "website article wizard" to pretty good and there is a big differance in them, article wizard is good if you HAVE a large data base of articles, rssE CREATES the articles and makes sites of them at the same time.. You can however make sites grow if you use CS and rssE in combination... OR you could use rssE to make the articles in txt to use in "article wizard"... Here is how to make a rssE+CS site "grow".. You need to add a few things in the templete for rssE, I have used "carp" alot to "auto up date" rssE sites, they have a free version.... Incert the carp code in your template where you want "latest news" to be dislpayed. Now create a site using rssE (and CS or what ever feeds you chose to use..) now create sub folder (folders) under the same domain, and upload a wordpress there... use an automated tool to add content to the wordpress automaticly (if you dont have one, drop me a pm and I will send you "tomtom's lazy content for wordpress script"). Now wordpress creates an rss feed with the latest "articles published", use this rss feed in your "carp" on the pages you created with rssE... You can create a wordpress for each "main topic" you on your site.. Sound to complicated? You can speed it up by using the "text tabs" in rssE for basic settings.. carp requiers your domain hosting account user name in one place, so in the templete you create for rssE you save one text tab to enter this, create the same sub folder names for each new site you make on the same topic and therefor included the folders already in the templete.... I would say that a good site with 2-3 wordpress under it and 100-1000 pages takes anything from 30-60 minutes to create and install.. and you never thave to touch it again! tomtom |
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 21:49 » |
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hmm.. when I read that it actually sounds REALLY complicated.. but it isent.. just me being pretty dum at explaining.... never mind.. its doable and it is simple  tomtom |
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2007, 19:46 » |
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Hey thanks for explaining... before i fire a few questions related to your recepie.... just another more rssE general question... From other auto-adsense-site-making-tools i am used to create a list of keywords, as they can change everything..... for few niches i found some nice long tail keywords, but as far as i get it , in rssE these are not important... But... if someone creates a niche adsense site with 5000 keywords (and each is specific subpage with keyword as title, with lots of #keyword# stuff within spiined related text) ... how can rssE compete with it?? I love concept of rssE, but inability to create "static" as homepage, from list of supplied keywords just puts it out of competition... or does it? What is your experience? ok... now related to your recepie... I dont quite get it why do you need wordpress or even more of them... what's the advantage over finding some nice related RSS feed, or maybe more RSS feeds combined with RSSmagician into one... ? Where are you putting adsense? just on rssE site or also on wordpress pages? Regarding auto content... pm is awaiting thanks, WG |
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2007, 19:50 » |
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another one... you write: "you can create a wordpress for each "main topic" you on your site.." ... what exactly do you mean there? if i have a niche rssE created site about "home insurance" ... this is one and only topic for this rssE site... so, how exactly are you building sites ? with more main topics? why not just have 3 separate sites and dont mix it? also... from here onwards "Sound to complicated? You can speed it up by using the "text tabs" in rssE for basic settings.. carp requiers your domain hosting account user name in one place, so in the templete you create for rssE you save one text tab to enter this, create the same sub folder names for each new site you make on the same topic and therefor included the folders already in the templete...." i really get lost, and dont understand what you meant can you please elaborate, maybe in pm... with an example if possible. thanks,WG |
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2007, 20:10 » |
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another one... you write: "you can create a wordpress for each "main topic" you on your site.." ... what exactly do you mean there? if i have a niche rssE created site about "home insurance" ... this is one and only topic for this rssE site... so, how exactly are you building sites ? with more main topics? why not just have 3 separate sites and dont mix it? also... from here onwards "Sound to complicated? You can speed it up by using the "text tabs" in rssE for basic settings.. carp requiers your domain hosting account user name in one place, so in the templete you create for rssE you save one text tab to enter this, create the same sub folder names for each new site you make on the same topic and therefor included the folders already in the templete...." i really get lost, and dont understand what you meant can you please elaborate, maybe in pm... with an example if possible. thanks,WG Hi there Lets see if we can get all the indians in the boat on this one you write: "you can create a wordpress for each "main topic" you on your site.." ... what exactly do you mean there? I should have used "sub-topic".. like on your "home insurance" site I would create static pages with rssE, but I would also create 2-3 wordpress under it wiht topics like "cheap home insurance" or "online quotes on home insurance" and maybe something like "home insurance NEWS".. each one of this blogs would be feed with some standard rss feeds + a cs feed loaded with related keywords in it... each one of the blogs rss out put would be used to create "fresh and updated content" on the static pages I created with rssE.. this gives you a site that is growing (the wordpresses get bigger and bigger..) and the static pages keep having some fresh and new material on them.... that would be how I woudl do it now and then.. and it has worked great.. it is really down to your cs feeds in what output you can squeeze from them... also... from here onwards "Sound to complicated? You can speed it up by using the "text tabs" in rssE for basic settings.. carp requiers your domain hosting account user name in one place, so in the templete you create for rssE you save one text tab to enter this, create the same sub folder names for each new site you make on the same topic and therefor included the folders already in the templete...." i really get lost, and dont understand what you meant OK I will write an example of what I mean with speeding it all up.. give me a little while to copy and past from a site I made to show you the idee.. brb with that.... tomtom |
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2007, 20:32 » |
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Hey thanks for explaining... before i fire a few questions related to your recepie.... just another more rssE general question... From other auto-adsense-site-making-tools i am used to create a list of keywords, as they can change everything..... for few niches i found some nice long tail keywords, but as far as i get it , in rssE these are not important... But... if someone creates a niche adsense site with 5000 keywords (and each is specific subpage with keyword as title, with lots of #keyword# stuff within spiined related text) ... how can rssE compete with it?? I love concept of rssE, but inability to create "static" as homepage, from list of supplied keywords just puts it out of competition... or does it? What is your experience? ok... now related to your recepie... I dont quite get it why do you need wordpress or even more of them... what's the advantage over finding some nice related RSS feed, or maybe more RSS feeds combined with RSSmagician into one... ? Where are you putting adsense? just on rssE site or also on wordpress pages? Regarding auto content... pm is awaiting thanks, WG Hmmm.. rssE like any other (well most of them then...) is totaly depending on your keyword list too.. it will only create a page for each keyword entered (or one page for each rss-feed entered for each keyword..) so if you use some really long and nice keyword chains, then I think rssE is perfect.. if used with CS.. Lets comapre it to the other one you mentioned earlier "article-wizard.." this will create pages from a base of articles on your PC.. unless you have written all the articles your self you are gonna publish dup content.. not very good... now if you use rssE and only pull content from feeds to create your pages then rssE will also publish duped content... hmm not very good.. so there needs to be something in the middle making a difference... CS or Magician... Now my experiance is (ok, I might not be able to join the other indians in the canoe after this one..) that you need about 25% UNIQUE content on a page to keep it indexed... so say you create a CS feed that gives you 200 words uniqe content, then you can add other feeds from article bases or things like that to fill out 600 more words... that gives you pages with about 800 words.. more then you need according to me.... I think 150 to 400 is good on a page.. but that is me... and today.. I might change my mind on that in a few hours....... So rssE is good simply because it is easy to use, easy to get the content.. and very easy to make the templates to (and therefor removing any foot-prints..very important..) AND since you can also add "text items" randomly it is very easy to get it looking ok... Thats my opinion, I use it lots and it works.. what more do I need.. yeah I play around alot and add extra stuff to it.. sub folders with blogs and autoupdated section on the pages and so on.. but that is extra things, I do it to develop what I do and get better sites.. the important thing here is to STAY in the index.. if you are in the index, you get visitors.. and if your site is ugly enough (hehehe) the visitors will be very happy to "click on anything to get out of there!" and that makes money...its that dam simple... Hmmmm did I answere your question now? heheh I had a long day and made some really cool feeds with CS.. content is REALLY good and I actually managed to find words in some sentences that I could add LOADS of variables to, record today I think was one word that I created 12 000 variables for .. tomtom |
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2007, 20:35 » |
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I love concept of rssE, but inability to create "static" as homepage, from list of supplied keywords just puts it out of competition... or does it? What is your experience?
WG Hmm what? rssE does just that, it creates static pages from the keyword list you supply.. it ONLY creates static pages.. that is why you need something else to make them auto-updated... I missed that one earler... it has been a long day.. tomtom |
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 12:00 » |
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Hmm well, no it does not.
I have a keyword list of "home insurance, auto insurance, travel insurance"... and I would expect that rsse will create AT LEAST these pages: index.php(or whatever extension is), then home-insurance.php, auto-insurance.php and travel-insurance.php ...
But rssE will rather create N files with naming from topic of RSS post... for example: "goverment-raises-prices-on-home-insurance.php" and "car-thefts-from-london-gets-charged-for-insurance-scam.php" ...
Do you see the difference?
What I would really love, is to have what i described + this what rssE does as a default... repetition of keywords in title/url is something that helps with better SERP...
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 12:31 » |
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Hmm well, no it does not.
I have a keyword list of "home insurance, auto insurance, travel insurance"... and I would expect that rsse will create AT LEAST these pages: index.php(or whatever extension is), then home-insurance.php, auto-insurance.php and travel-insurance.php ...
But rssE will rather create N files with naming from topic of RSS post... for example: "goverment-raises-prices-on-home-insurance.php" and "car-thefts-from-london-gets-charged-for-insurance-scam.php" ...
Do you see the difference?
What I would really love, is to have what i described + this what rssE does as a default... repetition of keywords in title/url is something that helps with better SERP... rssE will create "home-insurance.php" anb so on, no problem at all. Open the templete you plan to use (or hopefully your own made templete) and if you are using Microsoft FrontPage for editing then just right click on the page and under "page-properties" you edit the "title" to #keyword#.. then when you have rssE create pages you just select "out put .php" and you will be done.. in tis case you can ofcourse only create one page per keyword you enter in the list.. otherwise you will have several pages named "home-insurance.php" and that is not a good idee...then you need a "second name or frase" to go with it and that can ofcourse also be added in rssE... Did I answere the right thing now? tomtom PS. You might want to add under the titel in "description" #rss-title# and then in "keywords" add something more like "#keyword#, #keyword^rand#, #rss-title#" to make some variations in the output... even better if you use one of the "text-tabs" too and include "#item1# or what ever to get even better results... |
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 17:48 » |
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Hmm...
no, not working for me...
i still get index.php and then bunch of various files named after title of RSS posts... but no file with name from my keyword list...
I put #keyword# in TITLE of all templates (index,general,sitemap and post) - but no change...
On generate page, i have chosen: PHP, each item of output becomes one page, fetch each feed for each keyord, generate sitemap (100 links), generate index page (home insurance), items from feed 5, random items, all feeds....
What am i missing?
can you send me a template where this works - maybe problem lies there... or is this some limit of shareware 3day version? Omar?
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2007, 18:46 » |
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Hi
PM me 5 to 10 keywords, I will make a simple templete and test run it on my rssE, then send you the ready made sites, plus the templte so you can test it.. OK?
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2007, 23:51 » |
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damm.. tested it and sent it to you as you could see.. that worked, but I then played with some other feeds to se, and no, it wont work like I say.. the pages are named by default in rssE after the rss title... so am all wrong here  I guess that the reason I get the output as I describe it is in how my cs is configured.. so it needs to be done on cs level and not on rssE level... Sorry for the missssstake.. tomtom |
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 15:01 » |
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You can make rrs evolution sites "grow" on auto pilot if you know just a bit of php. You don't need to be a full blown coder to do it because you only need to know a few things (how to compare dates and how to include one file in another).
I usually create and upload a big site all at once ( 5,000 pages or so). I start with a link to sitemap-0 from the left column of each page on the site. Each time a page loads there is a bit of php code that compares today's date to a list of other links to the other sitemap pages. Set it up so that you add one new link to another sitemap page every week, every month, whatever.
If you do it right, it is a "set and forget" deal.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 20:26 » |
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Hmm, this sounds nice...
but...
how do you solve links from within article/content of that page?
I mean - i use few #keyword# and few #keyword^rand# tokens...
And with keyword-rand there is no control that it wont choose a page, that is scheduled to get added to sitemap later next month...
If sitemap is only outside linking from your every page, then i understand this, else... well i am interested in more details! Maybe PM?
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wg
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