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Author Topic: Google "Punishes" for same IP DNS?  (Read 2239 times)
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« on: May 29, 2006, 15:54 »

Hi,

I just read a few sites where they say that while creating a blog "empire" by using products such as "Blog Solution" is sound, the problem is that recently Google counts the IP and DNS address.

So, say you have a resellers' hosting account and can have your own 100 domains hosted there. The new Google will see all those 100 blogs but realize they are all coming from the same IP/DNS and treat it as 1 person, thus reducing the link popularity (since its' really one person voting for their own sites).

There goes the interlinking strategy! (Sure, the temporary solution would be to spread out your sites among different hosting companies, but this CAN get expensive).

I hate Google. Seriously! I have seen crappy sites on the top 5 and have no quality content.

Any remarks or solutions to this?

God, I wish I had the money to just advertise and not have to deal with search engines all together! Sigh.

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 22:55 »

On a reseller's account all domain do have the same IP address.

But for 2 buck a month per domain they can be individuals,not sure if this will make the DNS factor separate.

Anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 03:56 »

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I hate Google. Seriously! I have seen crappy sites on the top 5 and have no quality content.


Next time you see one of those, check out how many backlinks they have. Usually these are put up by people that really know what they are doing.

Their algorithm's have something like 100 factors they score. It's hard to tell why some sites do well, and others don't.

I have a NIche Creator site that right now is a PR4 on Google. Compare this to a nice WH site I have, with a couple hundred pages of unique, quality content, that is a PR3. Sometimes you hjust never know.

But conventional wisdom says you never mix spam sites with quality (or money) sites on the same IP's or c-blocks.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2006, 18:40 »

Wouldn't that theory make all *.blogger.com *.blogspot.com etc, etc, domains negatively effected? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 23:15 »

They are smarter than that!

Inbound links by all accounts have a lot of priority in the algorithms. Google shows 1.4 million inbound links to blogspot blogs.

Check out wordpress.com. (Not to be confused with Wordpress.org.) It is just a bunch of people's blogs, on any topic, largely a load of crap, and has a Google pr of 6. But it has 24,700 inbound links.

That's why programs like TBS work. Make yourself a money site. Point 10,000 blogs at it. Bingo!
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2006, 15:16 »

You have a great point and valid observation....
Google is definately far from stupid... if you are linking all your site from one IP/DNS it does little good.

The stategy I use is to creat blogs... I try to find as many all over the world as possible and place my backlinks on these.

I use software to update the blogs (there are many software packages out there that will do this). But.... think of the logic... you now have 100 (assuming you created 100) blogs all over the world with backlinks to your site.

You must remember there is no "single" piece of software that does it all. TBS is awesome and a great tool in the tool chest.

If you do a search in google for free wordpress blogs, you will find a bunch.

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2006, 23:52 »

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I use software to update the blogs (there are many software packages out there that will do this).


Can you name a few?
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2006, 03:38 »

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Can you name a few?


There's Content Solution for posting content to TBS blogs.

For WP, Blogger, etc. blogs you can use SEO Blog Builder, RSS to Blog, or a host of less popular programs.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2006, 22:25 »

The reason i dont buy th ip penalty thing is this. If that were the case then when you wanted somone gone....You could just pop a link on your blogs. Also with the way that virtual hosting works......Having all sites on a server on same ip.....that would not be a good way to do things. I think in the past this WAS an issue....but with ARIN not handing out ips like crazy anymore....virtual hosting on one ip for the server is common
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