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Logical Dolphin
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« on: August 13, 2006, 00:17 »

Blogomatix, a Blogsolution workalike, has added several new features that I hope will be matched by BlogSolution, or go one better.

They are:

1. The abillity to rewrite RSS feed posts, so it becomes unique content.
2. The ability to place related keyword images next to Adsense ads, to improve CTR.
3. Automatic social bookmarking linking (simular to the Tag Automator product).

It would really be great if Blogsolution added these features in the near future.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2006, 14:34 »

Quote from: Logical Dolphin
Blogomatix, a Blogsolution workalike, has added several new features that I hope will be matched by BlogSolution, or go one better.

They are:

1. The abillity to rewrite RSS feed posts, so it becomes unique content.
2. The ability to place related keyword images next to Adsense ads, to improve CTR.
3. Automatic social bookmarking linking (simular to the Tag Automator product).

It would really be great if Blogsolution added these features in the near future.


I'm so sure that BlogSolution will have features like blogomatix, just wait and see, maybe for a couple days, the blog solution team will anounce the update.
I know the blog solution team is hard working now to add some great features! :cool: :cool: :cool:
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 20:15 »

Well.. here is some inputs.

First, tha blogomatix started just by copy Blogsolution features, even copied the user manual and the knowledgebase articles. And 2CO stoped to do sales for them because of that, so they moved to some other reseller, that is more permisive..

And about the features. Here is my thoughs

1. That rss rewriting mean copyright infigement. We operate a BH script, be we don't encourage illegal activities. So far BH is not illegal, but stealing content it is.

2. That is a good idea, I will think about. Maybe to smth better thet just use it with BS Wink

3. I am not sure what that does. To use social boomarking, you need an account and you need to click that link to be added, but you have to think how many people with an furl or delicious accout will bookmark some posts made from rewritten rss.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2006, 20:06 »

Thanks for your input Ormar:

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1. That rss rewriting mean copyright infigement. We operate a BH script, be we don't encourage illegal activities. So far BH is not illegal, but stealing content it is.


I don't believe this is activity is illegal (no more or less than cloaking is). Basically this feature rephrases the ideas (apparently by randomly replacing synonyms) to achieve unique content.  Rewriting content happens all the time, this feature simply automates the process.  What is illegal is claiming someone's content is your own (or not acknowledging the source or the authors). Furthermore, Blogomatix has as option for cloaking content, so the rewritten content is seen by the search engines and the original content is seen by visitors.  This should help alleviate your concerns regarding infringement.

I still think this is a very good idea to add to BS, and you really should check out the Blogomatix sales page for more details on this (the addon is called  Articles2RSS), and try out the Blogomatix online demo account to see how this works.

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Maybe to smth better thet just use it with BS Wink

Could you restate this please?  I read it several times and I don't know what you are talking about. :confused: Anyway, I'm glad you like the basic idea.

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3. I am not sure what that does. To use social boomarking, you need an account and you need to click that link to be added, but you have to think how many people with an furl or delicious accout will bookmark some posts made from rewritten rss.


First, check out TagAutomator.com and watch the demonstatration video to see how this works. They charge approx. $300 + $67/month for this service. Blogomatix added a basic version of this concept to their product (without all the additional fees).  Again this would be a great feature to add to BS, and you can check it out and see how it works on the Blogomatix online demo account.
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To summarize:

For your prospective future customers, I really don't think you have a choice but to add similar features.  Much like BS sales page, Blogomatix has a features comparison list, and it shows BS coming up short. I really don't think you should risk ignoring what they are doing.

If you say that Blogomatix copied BS, do onto others as they did onto you.  COPY THEM BACK! Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 22:14 »

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Well.. here is some inputs.

First, tha blogomatix started just by copy Blogsolution features, even copied the user manual and the knowledgebase articles. And 2CO stoped to do sales for them because of that, so they moved to some other reseller, that is more permisive..

And about the features. Here is my thoughs

1. That rss rewriting mean copyright infigement. We operate a BH script, be we don't encourage illegal activities. So far BH is not illegal, but stealing content it is.

2. That is a good idea, I will think about. Maybe to smth better thet just use it with BS Wink

3. I am not sure what that does. To use social boomarking, you need an account and you need to click that link to be added, but you have to think how many people with an furl or delicious accout will bookmark some posts made from rewritten rss.


About the only common feature in BM & BS is that they have "Blog" in their respective titles. So saying they copied TBS is a bit of a furphy...
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2006, 13:30 »

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About the only common feature in BM & BS is that they have "Blog" in their respective titles. So saying they copied TBS is a bit of a furphy...


You should have seen the original blogomatix, without the features they added later, and read their user manual and online knowledge base (might been changed by now). That was copy/paste from our user manual and from some posts i have made here.

If user manuals and knowledgebase for 2 programs are 90% same, i think that the software are similar in same way. At least 2CO was agree with this at the time.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2006, 13:16 »

I am a subscriber to several forums - I'm sure most of you are as well - and many times a comparison of these 2 products come up.  From what I have read, it goes like this:

1 - Yeah BS was copied at first but now the other guy has gone much farther and have really improved the product over BS.

2- Yeah, it is better than BS now, but the guy gives crappy to non-existent support. If you can deal with that, buy it because it is better. If you want support after the sale and can live with less features, get BS.

3- BS is FAR superior but it is a resourse hog. The other guy's stuff is bells and whistles and is otherwise crap.

So, although I bought BS and saw the other product afterwards, I have often wondered if I should buy the other product just because so many people say it is more effective... but we know what opinions are worth, and we know how folks plant spies/bogus ID's/testimonials in forums to sell somebody's/their own stuff.

Now, had I seen the other guy's ad prior to buying BS, I may have bought the other product because side by side - if you believe what you read, the other product is much better than BS.  But we have all read great sales copy, bought something and the end result was crap.

Omar, you seem to get REALLY rattled when someone compares BS with this other guy and in a way, I don't blame you.  I developed bulk email software years ago and was pissed to no end when someone reverse engineered my software. BUT, I had to deal with reality when people started buying the other guys' stuff and I was "forced" to change... it was almost too late when I did, but when I DID change, I got my customers back and made the other guys looks like crap...made a bucket load of cash too :-)

So, if the other guy has stuff that outperforms BS, improve BS..plain and simple.

If someone on this forum has both products and the other is better, tell us WHY it is better or if it IS more effective than BS.. that is the sole reason we bought a product....i.e., if it is effective for what we want to accomplish. If BS gets the job done but we just want those nice shiney rims like the next door neighbor has...wellll....Cheesy

I have had several issues with BS, but each time without fail, Omar and Scott have fixed it...even on weekends...even when I had bonehead questions that were very easy to solve had I looked on this forum. That to me, is where the rubber meets the road.

NOW, if this other product IS better and IS more effective, if support IS superior, and someone has the nerve/balls/rationale to say so...someone UNBIASED without an agenda and without a profit motive..then I will jump ship and buy the other product if BS refuses to move with the cheese.. my loyalty is to me, my family and my clients. And if the makers of BS fail to see the writing on the wall, then so be it.

If BS is superior for what we want it to do and we just need a few other updates to keep it competitive or ahead of the game, then we need to know this. If updates are coming, tell us. If not, tell us...really simple.

I guess what I am saying is... if one product is better because of effectiveness, say it. If all we are getting down to is a "this guy has more bells and whistles than we do", then we are no more than rubber-neckers and whiners :-)

Who has BOTH? Who has compared the effectiveness of BOTH in the REAL world? Give me the facts..anybody can pay for good ad copy.
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2006, 00:52 »

Ok, I am as ubbiased as possible. I have both programs.

First let me say, I can't really say that one is superior to the other. But there are a couple notes here about BM that are important to note.

1. BM has unlimited installs. All else being equal it wins in this regard.
2. BM uses less resources and provides some adidtional features, are they better or more effective who knows. Jury still out.
3. BM allows COMPLETE control over templates. I can litterly make my website look like whatever I want and do any sorts of includes I want. I wish I could do this easily with BS. I have several "special" php files and java code I'd like to put in a template and last I checked couldn't get it work with BS not a problem with BM.

I like both products and I do agree completely this forum has more knowedgeble people and the product is supported far better. Allthough I have never had an issue with support personally for either product. Never used it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 22:53 »

Quote from: Logical Dolphin

2. The ability to place related keyword images next to Adsense ads, to improve CTR.
Recent "clarifications" by google means that this one is a no-no and will draw unwanted attention to your site.

A lot of templates and PLR sites that provide templates are removing this.

I have no objection to this feature as long as there is a way to disable it Smiley
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