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« on: April 16, 2006, 22:56 »

To fully equal other blog systems TBS needs to have categories, comments, and trackback capabilities.

Of the three, comments and trackbacks would be the most useful. It would legitimize BS more and add more flexibly too.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2006, 14:23 »

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To fully equal other blog systems TBS needs to have categories, comments, and trackback capabilities.

Of the three, comments and trackbacks would be the most useful. It would legitimize BS more and add more flexibly too.


Hmm, legitimize by whose standards? If I put a picture of a giant bear turd on a page a post it, it is legitimate. As far as trackbacks and comments, no thanks. I don't need to be cleaning out spam all day long. I want complete control over my spam - LOL
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2006, 15:28 »

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Hmm, legitimize by whose standards? If I put a picture of a giant bear turd on a page a post it, it is legitimate. As far as trackbacks and comments, no thanks. I don't need to be cleaning out spam all day long. I want complete control over my spam - LOL

Spam is good on splogs my friend. You certainly wouldn't want spam on your real sites or blogs, but they are a blessing on splogs and I invite every spammer and his mother to spam my SPLOGS. Wanna know why? Because spammers are nice enough to ping your blog after each spam Smiley

I will take a unique ping from a unique IP any time! So PLEASE spam my splogs all you want, it helps me more then spammers!

As for legitimazing, I really don't care to argue that out as it doesn't matter to me. That is just my opinion, and whether this is implemented in bs or not will not effect my life or revenue as I use many systems, and strategies. I mention it here because I felt it would help bs, and therefore others using it Smiley

Blog systems with comments and trackback capabilities are viewed by at least me as real blog systems, whether one wants to use them or enable them is totally up to each.

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2006, 19:38 »

Yeah, you have a point about the splogs, although I prefer to keep all my content in house. If I want comments I will make them. I just get sick of seeing all the same stuff by people pushing Viagra and penis pills.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2006, 21:02 »

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Yeah, you have a point about the splogs, although I prefer to keep all my content in house. If I want comments I will make them. I just get sick of seeing all the same stuff by people pushing Viagra and penis pills.


What's wrong with penis pills ?! Cheesy

Is money after all, isn't it.. and not peanuts Wink
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2006, 17:17 »

ROFL - Well, dude as Bud says to each is own, but I just have to draw my line somewhere. There are some things I am just not willing to do to make money.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2006, 17:50 »

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What's wrong with penis pills ?! Cheesy

Is money after all, isn't it.. and not peanuts Wink


Apperently a lot of people feel I need penis enhancements and viagra, and drugs, and more porn and they also want to see me gamble more too! I get a ton of email spam for all that. They want me to be a drug crazed sex maniac with a well hung tool so I can pick up more chicks at casinos! Sounds tempting enough, but I'm married Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2006, 16:10 »

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They want me to be a drug crazed sex maniac with a well hung tool so I can pick up more chicks at casinos! Sounds tempting enough, but I'm married


:p Cheesy Cheesy   Too funny.

But we're risking getting a bit off topic, aren't we?  Shocked

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2006, 22:07 »

Another point to this conversation is that while many of us seem to forget it, the fact IS that there ARE a few people using BS to run actual blogs, not splogs, so such tools would be of imenses benefit to them and of some benefit to some other possible projects as well...
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2006, 18:24 »

Perhaps, but I still have the best results when my stuff is invisible. I use Blog Solution only as a support framwork for my other applications - nothing more.

If you are playing the game of Spam you simply must have mutiple layers or the game is very short.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 18:42 »

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Perhaps, but I still have the best results when my stuff is invisible. I use Blog Solution only as a support framwork for my other applications - nothing more.

If you are playing the game of Spam you simply must have mutiple layers or the game is very short.


Actually there is some truth to what both of you say. While I personally would not consider BS as a tool for any thing BUT splogging, there are much better strategies available for more quality automation blogging that is more flexible and feature rich for the kind of blogs I think Dane has in mind. He still should have those options available to him if you wants to try it.

And I couldn't agree with you more on your point on multiple layers, or as I would describe it, as many different projects AND strategies working for you as possible!

Comments and trackbacks would benefit either strategy! But is not the show stopper for either too.

I personally can not emphasize the importance of working as many different strategies as possible! It should NOT be just one way or the other! To play a good game of golf you need to use all of your clubs Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2006, 21:36 »

think mass comments options will be good
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2006, 21:54 »

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think mass comments options will be good


wouldn't really help with in the same program because you couldn't/wouldn't want to use BS to ping again for comments.

Better option would be to permit comments to be made on bs, and then use another program to mass comment to them with.

I propose a server based mass comment poster that can be easily installed on as many difernt servers as you want (no domain limits pls), built around bs, provide a option in bs to create a text file with all the blogs you want to comment on and in put it in the mass comment program on other servers. The mass comment program should also use proxies. Now you can effectively spam yourself, and the comment poster would do the pinging thru proxies.

Alternately you could use a desktop comment poster but would be more work to manuall enter all the blogs.

The reason mass comment shouldn't be done with in bs is because it would only use up more resources. It would need to ping each comment otherwise it's almost a waste of time.

A third option could be to let bs mass comment but without pinging, and you could use a third party pinger program to ping each blog from desktop with proxies, and more work though.

I think it would be a good start just to include the capabities of comments and trackbacks for bs and let each person decide what to do with it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2006, 23:41 »

Bud Wiser  
idea not bad agree but desktop mass poster comments is not a real, if i have 3 000-6 000 blogs....
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2006, 03:22 »

Just to be clear, I agree that there are better solutions for high quality content blogs. (what I call relationship blogs) That said I have spoken with people who are using BS to run multiple "real" blogs because quite simply, it's simple. It's much more straight forward than WPMU and much lower maintenance / setup than multiple single WP installs. Personally for what most of them are doing to that end I use WPMU and BlogsOrganizer. Ofcourse I generally am only going to be posting 5-20 posts ever to one of my BO blogs, reserving the real heavy lifting for WP/WPMU.

But I also agree that for those who want to use the tool this way, comments, categories and trackbacks would be helpful. Categories and trackbacks would be helpful regardless. Using a tool Like BAP you could track back to your BS blogs from Blogspot blogs even, categories are always nice even something as rudimentary as having each of the three keywords assigned to each blog as a category. Then post feed items to that keyword into that category. While comments would be nice for those doing "real" blogging from within BS, if we had trackbacks from a splog standpoint, comments are really redundant since it's a simple matter of sending trackback pings from other resources, a much more elegant and less resource intensive solutiong than a mass blog posting script would be. You could simply download your trackback URLs and feed them to an xmlrpc script that interfaces with your other properties.
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