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« on: March 27, 2006, 23:54 »

I would like to comment and warn those that think this software is the solution to all their problems...it is and it is not.

Guess what? It really is, and can make your life easier, and can also bite you in the butt.

First...do not over ping.  After doing this with other software it is recommended by many to not over ping the servers.  Once your blogs are pinged they will be visited, and in time indexed.
Although BS recommends every 2 hours, I personally like to be conservative and ping every other day.  One programmer I know only pings once a week.
Kind of like a Meta Tag to re-visit site every 7 days.  So far every other day works out.

Second...if you are going to create over 250 blogs use the BATCH feature and only add no more than 50 blogs a day or you may get flagged as a spam domain.  I know...you are saying it will take forever to get my 10,000 blogs up there....so what?  Make them and let the server take over.  Once you are indexed and start to see some traffic, then increase the CRON time to allow more blogs.  v2 will make this easier.

Third...On your first post when you create a blog, it is wise to not have any backlinks to avoid being listed as a spam blog.  Remember that the blogs created with BS look original, so every now and then post a message with some useful content without a backlink.
Also I would recommend no more than 2 backlinks in a post, one is better as it looks original.

Often, programs like this tend to make us go crazy and just mass create, without realizing the outcomes for doing this.

Build it right, build with content, build it slow and solid so it will last for years to come.  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 22:46 »

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- 50 blogs per domain.
- Put them in subdomains, unless you are building a site all on one topic, then you can use subdirectories. If you do this, build a simple home page with links to all the pages, and put a "home" link on each page. And build it slower. (I post these once every two days.)
- I post once or twice per day. (Often when I first build I will post many times to build it a bit, before my first ping.)

This works for me. I use BlogSolution for niche blogs more than I do for B&P.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 23:41 »

I am curious, one post recommend 50 a day and the other 50 per domian.

I uploaded 173 words and have it batch of 10 a day... so it grows nice a slowly.

What is the reason behind only 50 per domain?
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2006, 14:00 »

I think there is a general concensus that too many pages showing up on sites at one time is a red flag to the SE's. But you will find opinions all over the board on this!

Since domains are so cheap, I usually limit myself to 50 sites (subdirectories) per domain. I don't know where this number originally came from, although I know Pete at Viral Instigator strongly recommends it, and he's got a lot of blog experience.

Having said that, I built some "super" sites yesterday, starting with 300 blogs on each domain. We''l see how they do. I didn't set them up for batch growth, but down the road I may come back and add more to them. That's the beauty of this system, I could add 509 more blogs in about 5 minutes!

I know people that churn out 10,000 page sites many times a day, and say the do well. But they always get de-indexed. Their theory is that they'll take the money for a few weeks, and keep building more.

I have a different opinion if you are building sites in subdirectories, and keeping oll the blogs on one topic. I think here the optimal size might be a couple hundred blogs, and grow them real slow. This is how a typical WH site might work, right? I'm trying this, too.

I think you just need to test for yourself and see what works. In a couple weeks, I'll have some real good data on how my various strategies are working. For now, still too new to rate!

Happy building,

David
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2006, 04:29 »

Since you guys are a bit ahead of me with V2 - I wonder if I could beg some help on something.

BS v1 allowed you to setup your feeds at the same time you setup your keywords.

If you switched topics / themes, it was no biggie, as the new keywords and feeds matched.

However, in V2, as I've been tinkering, the keyword setup is now separated from the feed setup (which is in the master Settings section).

If I input a new keyword list on a completely different topic / theme, then go in and delete the previously listed feeds and enter some new feeds in/on the same new topic / theme, will BS v2 retain the first round of keywords and feeds and then apply the new feeds to the new keyword blogs?

For example:  I setup 100 new blogs in V2, via 100 new keyword phrases (yes, I'm using Batch mode right now), in the Ecommerce market and enter 8 RSS Feeds in Settings associated with Ecommerce, then let V2 do it's thing for a couple days.  I'll have 100 blogs and 8 feeds on Ecommerce topics.

Then X number of days later, I add 100 keywords on Eye Diseases, creating 100 new blogs on Eye Diseases, using 9 (or whatever number) of eye disease RSS feeds, will the original 100 Ecommerce blogs retain the original 8 Ecommerce RSS Feeds and the new 100 Eye Disease blogs and 9 eye disease RSS Feeds stay matched to eye diseases?

I'm hesitant to try this for fear of having 9 eye disease feeds subsequently matched to 100 Ecommerce blogs.

Any feedback or advice on this would be VERY welcome!

BTW, V2 is a major upgrade and a very SWEET and welcome upgrade!  Way to go Scott and team!

JH

P.S. - btw, David - you have done an excellent job on your software reviews.  I spent 2 hours reading your site last night.  Thanks for taking the time to compare and contrast (the good ol' college paper methodology!) the various software and services in this space!
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2006, 14:12 »

Yes there are certainly different opinions and stragies for bs on this board, and we can not complain about that at all! It is good to have many stratagies available.

I am of the opinion that BS is best suited for brute force, build like there is no tomorrow, and alet the chips (blogs) fall where they will Cheesy

Yes, you will loose some domains, so what? If you want to make money from adsense, this IS the best stratagy for BS.

Yes building to fast sets off red flags, so what? Easy come easy go, just build, build build! We are not creating sites to win awards, but to make money Wink

This is my strategy for BS, BRUTE FORCE and it has been working just fine. I use this stratagy for all my BS domains. I use different strategies for RSS2B, SEO Blog Builder, and blogger blogs.

I'm here to make money, and try to exploit every tool I use to it's fullest capabilty. My opinion is we have here the UZI of blog creaters, why use it as six shooter?

Juts ma 2 cents!

Regards and Good Luck!
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 17:49 »

Quote from: David
Moderation -

- 50 blogs per domain.
- Put them in subdomains, unless you are building a site all on one topic, then you can use subdirectories. If you do this, build a simple home page with links to all the pages, and put a "home" link on each page. And build it slower. (I post these once every two days.)
- I post once or twice per day. (Often when I first build I will post many times to build it a bit, before my first ping.)

This works for me. I use BlogSolution for niche blogs more than I do for B&P.


Not quite sure I understand your method here.  

When you say 50 blogs per domain do you mean 50 keywords each being 1 blog?
Put them in subdomains.  Do you mean wildcarded subdomains or do you mean 50 installs of BS on 1 domain under manually created subdomains?

For the simple homepage is it just static HTML or are you also using BS to create the main homepage?

Thanks for your input.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2006, 02:25 »

Bud Wiser,

I'm with you on this opinion but only have one doubt. Won't it get your Adsense account suspended? Although we can create more accounts but it seems that they do check your sites before sending out checks for the first month. Do you have a counter for this or you haven't been facing any problems?

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Yes there are certainly different opinions and stragies for bs on this board, and we can not complain about that at all! It is good to have many stratagies available.

I am of the opinion that BS is best suited for brute force, build like there is no tomorrow, and alet the chips (blogs) fall where they will Cheesy

Yes, you will loose some domains, so what? If you want to make money from adsense, this IS the best stratagy for BS.

Yes building to fast sets off red flags, so what? Easy come easy go, just build, build build! We are not creating sites to win awards, but to make money Wink

This is my strategy for BS, BRUTE FORCE and it has been working just fine. I use this stratagy for all my BS domains. I use different strategies for RSS2B, SEO Blog Builder, and blogger blogs.

I'm here to make money, and try to exploit every tool I use to it's fullest capabilty. My opinion is we have here the UZI of blog creaters, why use it as six shooter?

Juts ma 2 cents!

Regards and Good Luck!
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2006, 00:14 »

I got BS1 and CS in Feb. of this year, and have installed and worked with both. I feel the combination is incredibly powerful. Imagination is the limit. Now, having said that, I'm pressed to come up with any marvalous stratigies to implement BS2. I have it installed and running. Would any of you care, either in this thread, or through a PM, share ideas about basic ways to implement BS2?

I know you can feed it a list of keywords, and in batch mode have 1000 blogs in days, but I'm talking more about making it... real. I'm talking about concepts  like this:

One site, 150 blogs, all keyword related.

One site, 25-75 different blogs, and only post to related blogs.

One site, 50-100 blogs, and just post randomly to all blogs.

I will be using CS, and a mixture of other RSS feeds. But just starting out, I'd sure like some blog farm concepts to think about.

Anyone care to share (no secrets) ideas about different ways to structure a blog farm and why? What percentage of links, posts, feeds, etc. in general? How many new blogs to list on the main blog page...?

Just looking for an educated starting point rather than always flying by the seat of my pants.

Thanks in advance...
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2006, 03:51 »

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Not quite sure I understand your method here.

When you say 50 blogs per domain do you mean 50 keywords each being 1 blog?
Put them in subdomains. Do you mean wildcarded subdomains or do you mean 50 installs of BS on 1 domain under manually created subdomains?

For the simple homepage is it just static HTML or are you also using BS to create the main homepage?

Thanks for your input.


Mynetjob -

Sorry, I just saw these questions!

50 blogs per domain = 50 keywords = 50 blogs
This is somewhat commonly believed to be a resonable limit to avoid de-indexing.

I use wildcarded subdomains. I've never put more than one TBS install on a domain.  If my keywords are not on one topic, I use subdomains.  I will also however use subdirectories, if they are all on related topics. (Looks just like a white-hat site.)
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2006, 04:02 »

Blog Farms:

Technically, I think most people define a blog farm as being a large group of blogs made to spam links into search engines.

But there are strategies to make them more successful, and actually get (and more importanty KEEP) page rank. You can chain blogs together to give them more SE credibility. A lot of people use a link chain something like this:

Blog A has links to blog B
Blog B to C
C to D
D to E
E to F
F to A

And all of them contain links to your money sites.

However, I think most thinking lately is that you don't "close" the circle.

The most successful strategy I've seen lately works like this. (This is from trusted friends, not personal experience.)

All blogs are on separate IP's and c-blocks.
Use Wordpress, not TBS or VI.
All blogs on the same common topic, like diets, cars, sports, computers, etc.
Link A to B & C with a dozen links to each
B to C & D
C to D & E
D to E & F
E to F
You can keep going forever with this strategy. Each blog you build will have inbound links from two others.
All of them post several times before you ping the first time. Then post and ping twice a day.

Insert up to 3-4 random links to your sites with each post.

It's easy to spam links into the SE's just by posting large numbers of links on blogs. But for best results, you need blogs that have decent rank.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2006, 13:52 »

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I would like to comment and warn those that think this software is the solution to all their problems...it is and it is not.

Third...On your first post when you create a blog, it is wise to not have any backlinks to avoid being listed as a spam blog.  Remember that the blogs created with BS look original, so every now and then post a message with some useful content without a backlink.
Also I would recommend no more than 2 backlinks in a post, one is better as it looks original.


Technically speaking, how does one avoid putting in backlinks on the very first post and then putting them on every post thereafter?  The add post screen seems like it's all or none.

Thanks,

Stan
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